(4) Original text: 阿难。因爱有求。此为何义。若使一切众生无有爱者。宁有求不。 答曰。无也。阿难。我以此缘。知求由爱。因爱有求。我所说者。义在于此。又告阿难。因爱有求。至于守护。受亦如是。因受有求。至于守护。佛告阿难。缘触有受。此为何义。阿难。若使无眼无色。无眼识者。宁有触不。 答曰。无也。若无耳声耳识。鼻香鼻识。舌味舌识。身触身识。意法意识者。宁有触不。答曰。无也。
Explanation: The Buddha said: "Ānanda, because of craving there is seeking. What does this mean? If all sentient beings were to have no craving, would there still be seeking?" Ānanda replied: "No." The Buddha said: "Ānanda, it is on account of this that I know seeking arises from craving; because of craving there is seeking. This is the meaning of what I have taught." He further told Ānanda: "Because of craving there is seeking, and even up to guarding and protecting. Feeling is also like this: because of feeling there is seeking, and even up to guarding and protecting." The Buddha told Ānanda: "Feeling arises conditioned on contact. What does this mean? Ānanda, if there were no eye faculty and no forms, and no eye consciousness, would there be contact?" Ānanda replied: "No." "If there were no ear faculty, sounds, and ear consciousness; no nose faculty, odors, and nose consciousness; no tongue faculty, flavors, and tongue consciousness; no body faculty, tangibles, and body consciousness; no manas, mental objects, and mind consciousness, would there be contact?" Ānanda replied: "No."
Original text: 阿难。若使一切众生无有触者。宁有受不。答曰。无也。阿难。我以是义。知受由触。缘触有受。我所说者。义在于此。阿难。缘名色有触。此为何义。若使一切众生无有名色者。宁有心触不。 答曰。无也。 若使一切众生无形色相貌者。宁有身触不。答曰。无也。阿难。若无名色。宁有触不。答曰。无也。阿难。我以是缘。知触由名色。缘名色有触。我所说者。义在于此。
Explanation: The Buddha said: "Ānanda, if all sentient beings were to have no contact, would there still be feeling?" Ānanda replied: "There would be no feeling." The Buddha said: "Ānanda, it is on account of this principle that I know feeling arises from contact; feeling exists conditioned on contact. This is the meaning of what I have taught. Ānanda, contact arises conditioned on name-and-form. What does this mean? If all sentient beings were to have no name-and-form, would there still be mental contact?" Ānanda replied: "No." "If all sentient beings were to have no physical form or appearance, would there still be bodily contact?" Ānanda replied: "No." The Buddha said: "Ānanda, if there were no name-and-form, would there be contact?" Ānanda replied: "No." The Buddha said: "Ānanda, it is on account of this that I know contact arises from name-and-form; contact exists conditioned on name-and-form. This is the meaning of what I have taught."
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