Suchness belongs neither to knowing nor to not-knowing.

Chan Master Huangbo said: "法本不有，莫作无见，法本不无，莫作有见，有之于无，尽是情见。"

Within the mind of emptiness (śūnyatā) there is not a single dharma, yet one must not take it to be nonexistent. The tathatā mind is not nonexistent; He truly exists, and therefore He is called the mind of ultimate reality (dharmatā-citta). But one must also not think that He has any mark or any dharma. Regardless of whether we take tathatā to be existent or nonexistent, or whether the myriad dharmas are true or false, all these views are the perspectives of our mind consciousness. The mind consciousness is itself a deluded mind, so all such views are sentimental views, not the view of tathatā. Tathatā has no view and no knowing, yet there is not a single dharma that He does not know, and not a single dharma can exist apart from Him. Therefore, knowing is deluded awareness, and not-knowing is the indeterminate (avyākṛta). Tathatā belongs neither to knowing nor to not-knowing.